NOTES:

BakerJ-195: The obverse of this piece is the same as BakerY-324. The reverse is the same as HK126. The obverse is also the same as the obverse of the piece listed directly below.

*BakerJ-195(OBV)/Unlisted(REV): This piece has the same obverse as BakerJ-195 and BakerY-324. The reverse can be described as follows: Rv: Washington monument. "Cor. Stone Laid July 4. 1848 555 Ft. High" to the left of monument. "Dedicated Feb. 21. 1885 81200 Tons" to the right of monument. The reverse looks exactly like the reverse of BakerN-322 only smaller, and without "Washington Monument" to the left and right around the outside. 34mm, Have only found in white metal. From Charles Kirtley sale #22 lot#125 with picture.

Baker264: Hiber and Kappen group this piece with other material from the Centennial Exposition held in Philadelphia in 1876; but Rulau/Fuld states that it was "struck 1861-62", and Joe Levine from his 39th PCAC sale lot#618 states: "HK erroneously attributes this to the 1876 Centennial period. It is a good bit earlier"

Baker320: Joe Levine from his 46th sale lot 871 states: "Called "excessively rare" by Rulau/Fuld-and probably true for the silver example. White metal pieces should more properly be called scarce". I was not able to locate a single one of these in either silver or copper.

BakerP-322: The only one of these that I located was the exact same piece described in Rulau/Fuld - Charles Kirtley sale #144 lot#AD139. This sale had a number of other neat Washington pieces.

BakerN-322: The three sales of this piece in bronze that I found were: PCAC sale #40 Part 1 lot#168 AU, PCAC sale #56 lot#1154 Choice AU, and Charles Kirttley sale #42 lot#698 Choice AU-55 "with just a hint of rub on the high point of the hair". A white metal piece was described as being 44.9mm in diameter in PCAC sale #69 lot#1257.

BakerO-322: The same as BakerN-322 but with a different obverse. The only bronze example that I found was from PCAC sale #40(Part l) lot#169.

BakerB-324: Rulau/Fuld lists this piece as Brass, but HK (HK127) lists it as bronze. Joe Levine from PCAC sale #56 lot#1148 sold one that was described as bronze.

*BakerB-324: This single piece is from Charles Kirtley sale #10 lot#722 where it was described as follows: "Similar to H&K127 but with slightly different dies on both sides. Also unlisted by Baker. Rare. White Metal. CH AU-55". There was no picture and no diameter given.

BakerD-324: The same obverse as HK763 and BakerN-324. The sole bronze example that I found was from PCAC sale #61 lot#938. Described as Chocolate Bronze Unc 37.8mm.

BakerM-324: Obviously a major rarity. I was not able to locate this piece in any metal.

*BakerM-324(REV)/Unlisted (REV): This piece has as it’s obverse, the reverse of Baker M-324. It is muled with an unlisted die that I have not seen, but was described as "Souvenir (within wreath)" from Bob Slawsky sale #58 lot#523. There was no picture. 38mm, Have only found in white metal.

BakerN-324: It is possible that BakerN-324 may be the same as BakerPA324 and HK763, but Rulau/Fuld describes BakerPA324(which they list as being the same as HK763), as being different from BakerN-324, with Baker PA324 having a bust by Paquet, and BakerN-324 having a bust by Houdon. I cannot see any difference between the photo in HK of HK763 and the photo of BakerN-324 in Rulau/Fuld. At any rate, Presidential Coin and Antique Co sold one of these in white metal in their Auction #32 Part ll, lot#956. Tony Swicer also sold one in white metal in his 1992 sale. PCAC sold another one of these, but in silver, in their 72nd sale lot #343.

*BakerN-324(OBV)/Unlisted(REV): The reverse of this piece is described as follows: Washington and troops in boat. "Washington Crossing The Delaware" around above in two curved lines. "December 25th 1776" below in two lines. 37.7mm, Have only seen in bronze. This reverse can also be found muled to the obverse of Baker394.

*BakerP324: I bought this piece in silver off ebay a couple of years ago. It is the only one I have ever located.

BakerU-324E: The obverse of this piece is the same as the obverse of HK125-a. Obviously quite rare.

BakerV-324: Obviously this piece is most common in white metal, and virtually all are holed. One in white metal showed up on ebay awhile back the was unholed. I have never found one in Gilt as described in Rulau/Fuld. The only bronze example that I located was from Johnson & Jensen auction #8 lot#279 where it was described as follows: "Much of the lettering is doubled as a result of "die draw" (metal flowed into, then out of die cavaties during striking-example of poor press-work). Projection at top intended for a loop. Very interesting specimen! VF-XF. Much luster"

BakerY-324: This piece has the same obverse as HK244, and for it’s reverse, the obverse as BakerJ-195.

Baker388: The reverse of this piece has "Demarest. SC." included. For a discussion of other reverse die varieties, read the note for Baker390D.

Baker388B(REV)/Baker391D(REV): This piece is the same as Baker391G but WITH "Demarest. SC." around below. For a discussion of other varieties, read the note for Baker390D.

Baker389: This piece is pictured in Baker. It has the same obverse as Baker388.The reverse appears to be one of two die varieties with "Demarest. SC." missing. For a discussion of all three die varieties, read the note for Baker390D.

Baker390: Baker’s description of this piece as being the same as HK74 is in error. It is actually the Reverse of HK75 muled with the Reverse of HK74.

Baker390D: This is probably the same piece as pictured in HK as HK74. Baker states that Baker390 is the same as HK74 which is in error. As far as I can tell, there are three different die varieties showing the rectangular painting of Congress by Trumbull. There is one variety that has "Demarest. SC." below in tiny lettering. This is the variety that is NOT pictured in either HK or Baker. It is however listed in Baker without a picture as Baker 388(look at Presidential Coin & Antique Auction #74 lot#223 for a picture) The other two varieties have the "Demarest. SC." omitted. One of these is pictured as the obverse of HK74. The other is pictured in Baker as the reverse of Baker 389. There are many minor differences, but perhaps one of the more obvious is a man standing in the distance just to the right of the right window(actually a doorway in the original painting by Trumbull) of HK74. This man is missing in the picture of Baker 389. Click Here for NEW IMAGES of all three varieties.

Baker391G: The reverse of this piece(Trumbull’s Declaration scene) is either one or both of the varieties that has "Demarest. SC." ommited. I have never found a picture of Baker390G to determine which variety was used, and for all I know, both were used. For a discussion of die varieties, read the note for Baker390D.

Baker392: The obverse of this piece has always been one of my favorite renditions of Washington on a medal - in high relief, with sharp detail. Is also found as the obverse of Baker397.

BakerA393: I only found two examples. One was in PCAC auction #48 lot#342 with a picture. I did not record where I found the other piece.

Baker394: This piece is listed in Rulau/Fuld as being HK42-45 which is in error; but read below about *Baker394B(OBV)/Baker392A(REV). The two silver pieces that I located were Stacks sale 5/6/92 lot #138, and PCAC sale #68 lot#109. The sole piece described as being Copper Nickel was from PCAC sale #58 lot#193 where it was described as being "unlisted as such". It is possible that the two pieces I found that were described as brass could in fact have been gilt.

*Baker394B(OBV)/Baker392A(REV): This piece is the same as HK43. Some auction catalogs state that Hibler/Kappen's book is incorrect in it’s description of HK42-HK45. In fact, at least as far as HK43(in Copper/Bronze), Hibler/Kappen's description is correct. Joe Levine of PCAC actually sold an HK43 in his sale #25 lot #1314 exactly as described in Hibler/Kappen(It appears that he forgot he sold it). Paul Van Sant also sold an HK43 in his August 1997 fixed price list. A third was probably(the description was not elaborated on to be absolutely sure) sold by Charles Kirtley #160 lot#MO55. The confusion comes at least partly from the fact that Rulau/Fuld's book "Medallic Portraits of Washington" is incorrect in it's description of Baker 394 as being Hibler and Kappen's #42-45. Baker 394 is actually a muling of the reverse of HK42 with the reverse of HK48. Also note that all three of these HK43s were looped(possibly clamped on loops). Also, possibly two out of three, or even all three could in fact be the exact same piece.

*Baker394C(OBV)/Unlisted(REV): This piece has the same obverse as Baker394C combined with a reverse described as follows: Washington and troops in boat. "Washington Crossing The Delaware" around above in two curved lines. "December 25th 1776" below in two lines. 37.7mm, Have only seen in white metal. This reverse can also be found muled with the obverse of BakerN-324.

*Baker394(OBV)/Blank Reverse: From PCAC sale #27(Part l) lot#309 where it was described as "Obverse die trial of Baker 394 in tin. Nice Unc." With photo.

Baker397: Two of the silver pieces recorded here were from the Stacks Gilbert Steinberg sale held 5/6/92 lot#139 and lot#140. The other silver piece was from PCAC sale #73 lot#213. The sole gilt example was from PCAC sale 11/15/97 lot#906, described as "Gilt, as such, unlisted. Baker 397. Holed AU"

Baker398: I recorded four of these, all holed. PCAC sale #44(6/25/88) lot#493(no photo); PCAC sale #47 lot#278(with photo); Christensen and Stone sale of 4/30/70 lot#832(no photo), and Stacks 5/6/92 sale lot#141(with photo).

Baker405: The silver plated piece recorded here was from PCAC sale #56 lot#1136. Tony Swicer may have also had a silver plated piece in his 1992 sale.

Baker406: The only piece that I found that was described as being made of brass was from Bob Slawsky sale #39 lot#558. The only piece I found that was described as gold plate(gold plated white metal) was from Johnson and Jensen sale #10 lot#1281.

Baker409: Obviously far more common in White metal. The sole silver example that I found was from the Stacks Gilbert Steinberg sale held 5/6/92, lot#145. I did dot find any in bronze.

Baker410: This piece comes with a loop as shown in Rulau/Fuld. For some reason the picture in Rulau/Fuld is oval shaped, but the actual piece is round. There is a second variety of this piece found in brass that is one sided using the obverse of Baker410. As far as I can tell, it always comes without a loop. For some reason I did not keep a tally on Baker410 as shown in Rulau/Fuld, but I did keep records of the uniface piece. I found five pieces, all brass. I recorded where I found three of them. They are as follows: Steven Alpert sale #55 Lot#927 described as "unlisted uniface brass strike of obverse, 39mm, no loop, toned BU, nice.". Kurt Krueger sale #53 lot#3616 described as "Anniversary uniface medal. Brass EF-45" with small photo. PCAC sale #44(6/25/88) lot#206 described as "41mm. Brass" and "not issued with the loop that usually attends the fully struck token." You will notice that the Steven Alpert piece was described as 39mm while the PCAC piece was described as 41mm, so one of the measurements was probably in error. I have never measured this piece personally, so I do not know what the correct size is, but I would assume that the 41mm size is correct being that Baker 410 is also 41mm as described in Rulau/Fuld. At a show a while back I saw a Baker410(the double sided version) in a slab without a loop, and of course there was no way to really tell if a loop had been removed. The price on it was $4000.

Baker415A: I found two of these in bronze, but only recorded where I found one of them. Johnson & Jensen sale #10 lot#1298. Described as being "34.3mm" and having a "Red-brown patina. AU"

BakerC-415: An attractive piece, and obviously extremely rare. I found no examples.

BakerF421: It may be that the gilt and brass pieces are one and the same; but for what it’s worth, there was one piece that I found from a April 30, 1975 Christensen and Stone sale that was described as follows: "1926 Philadelphia, U.S. Sesqui. Official medal in very high relief. HK451, copper with gilt finish. UNC"

Baker425: I found three pieces in silver. I recorded where I found two of the three. One was from Stacks 5/6/92 lot#148, with photo. The other was Charles Kirtley sale of 8/12/86 lot#1078 with photo.

Baker428: This piece has a common reverse with four other pieces, all of which were souvenirs for visitors to the 1876 exposition held in Philadelphia - in English, German, French, and for Catholics. The sole silver piece that I found of Baker428 was, once again, from the Gilbert Steinberg May 6,1992 Stacks sale, lot#152 with photo.

Baker429: I found nine examples of this piece, all holed. Seven were graded AU. None were graded Unc. All were in white metal.

Baker433: This piece is a muling of the obverse of Baker394 with the reverse of HK60/61. I found only two of these, both in white metal. One was in Paul Van Sant’s August 1997 sale of Neil Conner’s collection where it was described as AU55. The other was PCAC sale #56 lot#1137 where it was described as "Prooflike Unc.", and was misdescribed as HK61. Obviously this piece is quite rare in all metals.

Baker436: Copper and bronze pieces found were combined together.

Baker448: Although the first obverse pieces can most commonly be found in white metal, I have yet to find any white metal second obverse pieces.

Baker449 S: Of the eight sales recorded here, it appears as if only two of the sales were exactly the same piece. All others are probably different. The seven different pieces were as follows: 1)Johnson & Jensen 9/16/79 lot 591. Part of a boxed set of three medals including one in silver. Described as obverse having slight nicks and reverse perfect. Was not graded specifically, but all three pieces were graded overall VF-AU. No photo 2)PCAC 6/25/88 lot 76. Described as choice about uncirculated with uneven blue & rose toning. No photo 3)PCAC 12/2/89 lot 280. Described as choice uncirculated with attractive pale gold and turquoise toning, and the choicest of the two specimens owned by Paul Magriel. No photo. This piece sold once again at the 12/8/90 PCAC sale lot 251, with photo. 4)PCAC 6/25/94 lot 146. Described as Choice uncirculated with attractively toned and proof surfaces. It was originally bought from Tony Swicer who noted that it was Ex-Dreyfuss, #5449. With photo. 5)Dick Grinolds 6/9/98 lot 1086. Described as xf+++-au with a small rim bump at 9:00 obverse. With photo. 6)PCAC 11/13/99 lot 339. Described as Choice deeply toned about uncirculated. With photo. This same piece also sold in PCAC 12/1/01 lot 471. This latter sale was after year 2000 so was not added into population numbers. 7)Bob Slawsky 12/1/99 lot 927. Described as Proof with light orange toning. With photo that appears to show some hairlines on the obverse field.

Baker449 BZ: Original bronze pieces have a chocolate brown appearance. The modern restrikes have much lighter yellow matte surfaces. Julian describes this piece as existing in aluminum, but I have never seen or heard of one in that metal.

BakerE-452: This piece is listed in Rulau/Fuld as being 45mm in diameter. A white metal example is described as being 44.8mm in diameter in PCAC sale #69 lot#1279; and a bronze example is described as being 44.7mm in diameter in Johnson & Jensen sale #15/16 lot#254. The gilt example is from Kurt Kruger sale #142 lot#2787.

Baker453: This piece is described in Rulau/Fuld as being 32mm in diameter, but in every auction catalog where I have found this piece, it is always described as being 33mm in diameter. The sole silver example that I found was from PCAC sale #44(6/25/88) lot#077 where it was described as "Deeply toned blue over mirror fields".

Baker457: This piece is 35mm in diameter, not 33mm as listed in Rulau/Fuld. It has the same obverse as BakerA1810, and the same reverse as Baker458.

Baker459: I could not locate any in copper or bronze, but did locate one in silver proof from Abner Kreisberg sale 10/31/66 lot#71. One double thick white metal piece was described as follows by Joe Levine in his PCAC sale #45 lot#560: "Baker 459B. 44.9mm. WM. XF/AU. Charles Cushing Wright and Anthony C. Paquet,Sc. Obv: Very high relief Houdon bust by Wright, dean of American 19th Century engravers. Rx: Commemorative date and laurel. Published by Warner & Brother, Philadelphia. Double thick, 4.8mm at rim, 6.5mm at center. Some darkening in the fields."

Baker462: It appears that I could find none in copper, and all white metal pieces found were holed.

Baker777: I only ran across two of these. The first was PCAC sale #45 lot#752 where it was described as "35mm. Nickel plated. XF". The second was from Bob Slawsky sale #45 lot#283. It was described as "silver, 35mm, XF".

Baker1810: The two pieces in bronze that I found were from PCAC sale #53 lot#1280 where it was described as "35mm. Chocolate Bronze. George Morgan, Sc. Unc"; and Johnson & Jensen sale#10 lot#1421 where both a white metal and bronze piece were sold as one lot and described as "Flawless unc!". The white metal pieces are usually found holed, but can be found unholed.

BakerA1810: This piece has the same obverse as Baker457. The three bronze pieces that I found were from Charles Kirtley sale #42 lot#800 "Choice Unc-63"; PCAC sale #64 lot#1744 "Choice unc"; and Charles Kirtley sale #161 lot#B073 "Unc".

*Unlisted(OBV)/Unlisted(REV)1: Description as follows: Obv: Four men standing, Washington taking oath. Thirteen small stars around. "George Washington Taking The Oath As First President Of The United States" around outside. "April 30, 1789" around above. "In Federal Hall Wall St. N.Y." below. Rv: Scene with men and sailing ships. Man at top of flagpole changing flags. "1783-Centennial-1883" around above. "Celebration Of The Evacuation Of New York" around below. "John Van Arsdale Removed The British Flag And Nailed The Emblem Of Freedom In Its Place" in three arcs around above. 35.7mm, Have only seen in white metal.

*Unlisted(OBV)/Unlisted(REV)2: Description is as follows: Obv: Bust of Washington three quarters left. "George Washington" around above. "1789 1797" to the left and right of bust. Rv: Coat of arms with standing figures to the left and right of square shield. Wings below. "Hawaii 50th State August 21 1959" in four lines above shield with "Hawaii" in larger letters around above. 39mm, Have only seen in bronze/copper. I am guessing that this piece was made at the same time that Hawaii was admitted as a state.

*Unlisted(OBV)/Unlisted(REV)3: Description is as follows: Obv: Crossing scene. "Golden Jubilee Washington Crossing The Delaware" around above in three curved lines. "Aug. 23-28 1897. Reading Pa" Rv: School house with large flag. "God Our Country And Our Order" around in larger lettering. "The Little Red School House" around in smaller lettering. "The Bulwark Of Liberty" in two lines below school house. The two bronze examples are from Johnson & Jensen sale #8 lot#1419(with picture), and PCAC sale #32 Part ll lot#1195. I found three white metal examples. Two of them were PCAC #32 Part ll lot#1196, and Christian and Stone sale on 4/30/70 lot#822.

*Unlisted(OBV)/Unlisted(REV)4: Description is as follows: Obv: Bust of Washington left on shield within closed wreath. Scrolls to the left and right. "Constitution Centennial" around above. "Phila Pa Sept 15-17" around below. "1787 1887" on scrolls split to the left and right. Rv: Liberty Bell within thick wreath border. "Liberty Bell" around to the left and right of wreath. Obverse and reverse pictured in Charles Kirtley sale #42 lot#787. Another sold in PCAC sale #44(6/25/88) lot#669(no picture). In both sales this piece was described as being 33mm white metal. Both were holed. The obverse design of this piece is the same as the obverse of Douglas44, but with different inscriptions.

Douglas10: Virtually all of these are holed. Occasionally they are found with attachments. Charles Kirtley sale #158 lot#P004 was described as having a Red/White/Blue ribbon; Johnson & Jensen 5/20/79 sale lot#447 was described as having an attached eagle pinbar.

Douglas11: Appears to be somewhat less common than Douglas10, and can more often be found unholed.

Douglas13: Two of the four bronze pieces that I found were as follows: Charles Kirtley #16 lot#500 "Bronze. Prooflike Unc-60 unholed"; and Charles Kirtley #42 lot#705 "Bronze. Choice UNC-63 with prooflike fields, and virtually flawless surfaces. Breathtaking.". White metal pieces can occasionally be found with attachments. Johnson & Jensen sale#10 lot#1433 was described as "Hung from red, white, blue ribbon & header". I found no gilt pieces.

Douglas14A: Two of the three I found in bronze were: PCAC #47 lot#1640 described as unholed Unc; and Johnson & Jensen #10 lot#1435 described as "Chocolate brown patina. Flawless! Unc"

Douglas14U: Could find no examples, so obviously quite rare.

Douglas18: In Charles Kirtley sale #42 there were two unholed pieces, with photos (lot#752 and lot#848). In Johnson & Jensen sale #15/16, lot#1844 was described as being "Hung from red-white-blue ribbon & brass header".

Douglas19: There is a not so good photo of this piece in Charles Kirtley sale #42 lot#753. All I found were holed.

Douglas20M: I cannot tell the difference between Douglas20 and Douglas20M as described in Rulau/Fuld. The reverses of Douglas18 and Douglas20 look the same to me.(???) If anyone can tell me what the difference is, let me know.

Douglas21 and 21A: I lumped these two together as the only difference is the edge. Usually holed, but occasionally unholed.

Douglas37: The reverse of this piece is more commonly found muled to an obverse showing the bearded bust of Bartholdi within an oval. Douglas37 with the Washington obverse is considerably rarer.

Douglas42C: With blank reverse. I found no examples.

*Douglas42(OBV)/Unlisted(REV): This piece has the same obverse as Douglas42 combined with a reverse that was described as follows in Charles Kirtley sale #36 lot#598: "Rev: WASHINGTON D.C. / (capitol building)". This is the only one of these I have located. It was made of white metal and was holed. 34mm. There was no picture.

Douglas43: One piece from Johnson & Jensen sale #23 lot#648 was described as having a "Brass spread eagle on crossed cannon pinback header". It appears that about half of the white metal pieces can be found unholed. Much rarer in bronze.

Douglas44: All appear to be holed. Two pieces found were made of lead: PCAC sale #44(6/25/88) lot#715, described as being "Lead" that "was once bronzed"; and Johnson & Jensen sale #10 lot#1482 was described as being made of lead in "fair" condition. Also, a white metal piece in PCAC sale #46 lot#911 was described as having a "maroon and yellow ribbon, a brass top bar".

Douglas47: Occasionally one of these pieces will turn up without a hole, but the vast majority are holed. An unholed example showed up on ebay a few years ago.

Douglas49A: Occasionally the white metal pieces can be found with a red, white & blue ribbon with a brass top pinbar.

Douglas50: Appears to be rarer in white metal than bronze. The sole silver example found is from Stacks sale held 5/6/92 lot#189 where it was described as "Silver, unlisted in this metal. Select prooflike Uncirculated, toned. Plain edge. Spot of die rust in right reverse field". None in any metal found holed.

RulauNY-DU 6 : This is exactly the same piece as Rulau NY-DU 6, Young Mens Association Dunkirk, N.Y. It has the same obverse as Baker 50D and Baker M-324. There is a picture of both the obverse and reverse of this piece in Charles Kirtley sale #42 lot#802

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